The term "Religioned Out" best describes my current situation.
Bungi Bill
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Since leaving the JW Organization, who is believing?
by Issa ini left the jw organization last year during summer.
maybe some of you can relate.
who of you are agnostic or an atheist?
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US violent crimes and murders rose in 2016, the FBI says
by Simon ini can't remember the exact topic but i think a few people predicted the same thing - that the blm movement would cause an increase in violent deaths of young black men, ultimately doing more harm than good.. and so it has: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41391333.
an 8.6% rise in the homicide rate is pretty appalling by any standard unless it started at very low levels, which we know it didn't.. this is why i object to movements based on false premises and invented media lies / selective coverage.
the people who suffer the most are not the ones marching in the streets.
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Bungi Bill
I think he's a loathsome human being but that doesn't mean I can't notice when the media is biased and unfair in their treatment or that he can't do great things. The president of the US isn't a Mr Nice Guy competition after all.
Interesting - particularly the last sentence!
It ought to be cause for concern that all too often, election campaigns come down to a mere popularity contest. Certainly, last year's General Election in this country was just that - with little or no intelligent debate about policies.
All I can say is God help us all!
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US violent crimes and murders rose in 2016, the FBI says
by Simon ini can't remember the exact topic but i think a few people predicted the same thing - that the blm movement would cause an increase in violent deaths of young black men, ultimately doing more harm than good.. and so it has: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41391333.
an 8.6% rise in the homicide rate is pretty appalling by any standard unless it started at very low levels, which we know it didn't.. this is why i object to movements based on false premises and invented media lies / selective coverage.
the people who suffer the most are not the ones marching in the streets.
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Bungi Bill
It is true that socio-economic factors do play a part in the incidence of crime. In the district where I presently live, one dosen't have to look to hard to see evidence of that - i.e. in the former forest industry towns of New Zealand's North Island, where once every unskilled worker was practically guaranteed a job in a forestry crew, thus keeping him out of mischief during the daylight hours Monday to Friday. Reforms in the industry that were implemented 30 years ago, though, have left consequences that you wouldn't want to know about!
However, caution has to be exercised here. It is all too easy to apportion blame to everybody and everything except the criminal himself.
As I recall it being reported in Time magazine, the noticeable reductions in crime which occurred in America during the early 1990s largely happened because the police returned focus onto their primary role - that of harassing the criminal element. Growing up during the late 1950s and through the 1960s, I lived in fear (bordering on mortal terror!) of the local policeman.
No doubt, there are those around who would direct a stream of tomatoes at me for saying this, but I do believe the community would be one hell of a lot safer if every one of us was absolutely $h#t-scared of the man (or woman) in a blue uniform.
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Anointed Delusions of Grandeur
by Kohanic inso here is something i've been wondering about.
how do the 'anointed' come to the conclusion that they are chosen?
is it some weird collective delusion of grandeur and how is it manifested in such ones?.
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Bungi Bill
My experience with those who claimed to be "annointed" was that they were very definitely affected by mental illness. One in particular that I can think of still requires intensive psychiatric treatment, 30+ years after first "partaking of the emblems."
Those who regularly work with the mentally ill are generally in agreement that mental illness has number of common characteristics. One of these is deep religiosity, and another is having delusions of grandeur. Not, of course, that all religious people are necessarily mad! However, religion together with mental illness is not a good combination.
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Is Happiness Without Religion Possible?
by Brian J inaccording to the 11/2017 study watchtower.......apparently not.
is it really true that one can be happy without religion?
certainly an individual can be happy without false religion, but a person cannot be truly happy unless he has a relationship with jehovah, who is described as “the happy god.” (1 tim.
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Bungi Bill
Is happiness without religion possible?
Bloody right it is, as I have found out over the last 23 years!
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Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)
by freddo inso i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.
he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.
(knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.
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Bungi Bill
Goes to show you can make the bible say whatever you want"
Put a good spin doctor on the job, and the possibilities are endless! (Happliy, though, the current lot of GB members aren't up to the task).
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Bungi Bill
"Us" and "them" preceded nationalism by several thousand years.
I have heard this explained as being the result of how the human species originally evolved in small groups, which (to me, at least!) seems feasible. The "Us" and "Them" attitude is still very much alive and well; one only has to look at sports teams - and, perhaps even more significantly - their supporters to see evidence of this.
One achievement of nationalism was to at least lift this "Us" and "Them" tendency from out of the parochial level.
(Others here have correctly also identified what has sometimes been termed "ultra-nationalism", and which is one of the building blocks of Fascism).
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Bungi Bill
This is one of the reasons I don't bother anymore to read newspapers - unless I happen to be very bored, and someone else has paid for the thing!
Also, I rather run out of unpleasant adjectives regarding the way this man lowered the standards of almost every newspaper he ever took over, just so he could increase its circulation. The word "scary" would hardly even begin to describe the situation we have where one person controls so much of the world's media. (Whether printed or electronic).
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Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)
by freddo inso i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.
he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.
(knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.
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Bungi Bill
pale.emperor,
In 1990, it was calculated that 5% of the publishers in our circuit were suffering from M.E. (or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome - CFS - as it is now most commonly known as). I recall its victims including Special Pioneers and the like. It even seemed that the more "active" you were in "Jehovahs Organisation", the more likely you were to be afflicted by M.E. / CFS. Youth offered no protection, either. In our congregation, even some children were suffering from M.E. / CFS.
However, in the 23 years that have gone by since I broke with that lot, I have known only one person who was diagnosed as having that complaint. It would seem that it does indeed afflict JWs more than the population in general.
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Aliens
by Jayk ini thought i was weird that i believe in aliens.
until i remembered that people believe there is a god..
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Bungi Bill
After what came to be known in New Zealand as the "Kaikoura lights", I always figured that you cannot deny the existence of UFOs. During the months of December 1978 and January 1979, UFOs were repeatedly sighted from the Wellington-Christchurch cargo flight, then operated by Safe Air.
Not only were these "objects" observed by the flight crew, but were also detected by both the aircaft's onboard radar, as well as that at Wellington Airport's Air Traffic Control Centre. Furthermore, on the night of the 30th December, these objects were also filmed by an Australian TV crew who were aboard the aircraft.
When these objects were observed by up to five different people while at the same time being detected by two different sets of radar - AND recorded on movie film - it is very hard to deny their existence! (People can perhaps suffer from hallucinations, but radars and movie cameras?). Of course, UFOs don't necessarily mean aliens.